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  Publisher ID - I Saw It In Person & It Was Terrifying!

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
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  i'd like to start off this post by saying, we all know that the wt loves control.

  it's clear by their history, their wt's, the elder arrangement and so on.

  however, after witnessing and using the publish id program in person, it takes this need for control to a whole new level & it was scary.. if you've ever seen builder assist (the website program used for ldc volunteers) or the metro program, it actually looks pretty similar to that.

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  Publisher ID - I Saw It In Person & It Was Terrifying!

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'd like to start off this post by saying, we all know that the wt loves control.

  it's clear by their history, their wt's, the elder arrangement and so on.

  however, after witnessing and using the publish id program in person, it takes this need for control to a whole new level & it was scary.. if you've ever seen builder assist (the website program used for ldc volunteers) or the metro program, it actually looks pretty similar to that.

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  Publisher ID - I Saw It In Person & It Was Terrifying!

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'd like to start off this post by saying, we all know that the wt loves control.

  it's clear by their history, their wt's, the elder arrangement and so on.

  however, after witnessing and using the publish id program in person, it takes this need for control to a whole new level & it was scary.. if you've ever seen builder assist (the website program used for ldc volunteers) or the metro program, it actually looks pretty similar to that.

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  Publisher ID - I Saw It In Person & It Was Terrifying!

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'd like to start off this post by saying, we all know that the wt loves control.

  it's clear by their history, their wt's, the elder arrangement and so on.

  however, after witnessing and using the publish id program in person, it takes this need for control to a whole new level & it was scary.. if you've ever seen builder assist (the website program used for ldc volunteers) or the metro program, it actually looks pretty similar to that.

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  Publisher ID - I Saw It In Person & It Was Terrifying!

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'd like to start off this post by saying, we all know that the wt loves control.

  it's clear by their history, their wt's, the elder arrangement and so on.

  however, after witnessing and using the publish id program in person, it takes this need for control to a whole new level & it was scary.. if you've ever seen builder assist (the website program used for ldc volunteers) or the metro program, it actually looks pretty similar to that.

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  FatFreek 2005

  I found that Cedars video (very good one, by the way) and made 5 screen captures that are relevant to WT position. I tried to paste all 5 to one "Have your say ..." but it wouldn't work (no error message, it just didn't happen.

  So I will start here and paste and post one at a time. Sorry for the clutter.

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  Publisher ID - I Saw It In Person & It Was Terrifying!

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'd like to start off this post by saying, we all know that the wt loves control.

  it's clear by their history, their wt's, the elder arrangement and so on.

  however, after witnessing and using the publish id program in person, it takes this need for control to a whole new level & it was scary.. if you've ever seen builder assist (the website program used for ldc volunteers) or the metro program, it actually looks pretty similar to that.

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  FatFreek 2005

  A revengeful elder gets hold of the passcode.

  No longer complicated for him to keep track of someone like myself, gone since 1977, but am the other grandfather who has never even met the grandchildren. Perfect scenario for the revengeful one.

  Or the less than honest owner of a janitor company who also happens be a prominent elder. He fires a recently DFd employee (in order to keep his staff clean of apostasy), then latches onto the ex-employees WT record and hacks some changes -- introduces some phoney pedophile charges and our friend, the exJW, is now smeared forever.
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  Publisher ID - I Saw It In Person & It Was Terrifying!

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'd like to start off this post by saying, we all know that the wt loves control.

  it's clear by their history, their wt's, the elder arrangement and so on.

  however, after witnessing and using the publish id program in person, it takes this need for control to a whole new level & it was scary.. if you've ever seen builder assist (the website program used for ldc volunteers) or the metro program, it actually looks pretty similar to that.

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  FatFreek 2005

  I DAd in 1977 and have had seven address changes since then till now and I wonder whether they've been tracking all that.
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  1975 and 1981?

  by Steel in

  1. watchtower
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  is it true that in 1975 the watchtower falsely predicted the end of the world and a great number of the membership quit and just a few years later they turned disassociation into disfellowshipping?

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  FatFreek 2005

  Sorry to be so short but I was on my tablet, which I'm not real comfortable with.

  My essay, "Watchtower’s 49 Date Failures Mostly Ditched Without Fanfare", lists 1975 as a date failure and supports that with some 6 WT quotations. Finally, the 1980 quotation (re 1975) is where they concede that they went too far in their implications.

  I probably exaggerated it with my expression of "thousands" -- it was more like hundreds -- which is incriminating enough.

  I was baptized in 1956 and I lived through it all, leaving in 1977 somewhat because of their implications -- not only in the publications, but from the platform and at the hall.

  Those of us in the fold as apostates get enough bad press without fueling the fire with incorrect charges. There are plenty of stupid WT statements without the need to resort to false ones.

  Len Miller
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  1975 and 1981?

  by Steel in

  1. watchtower
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  is it true that in 1975 the watchtower falsely predicted the end of the world and a great number of the membership quit and just a few years later they turned disassociation into disfellowshipping?

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  FatFreek 2005

  Back to the original post no they never said it but they implied it thousands and thousands of times and there is a difference however slight

  Fact is they admitted the implication some five or six years after
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  2019 Shepherd The Flock Of God and More!

  by Atlantis in

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  2019 information-for-expectant-mothers-s-401-e. 2019-addendum-to-shepherd-book-sfla-e_bi2019-shepherd-the-flock-of-god-october-sfl_e2020-kingdom-ministry-school-program-elders-pgme-20-e. instructions to access my profile.

  https://we.tl/t-rex13nnhax atlantis!

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  FatFreek 2005

  Blondie: " . . . taking a blood transfusion would no longer be a df'ing offense but an act of disassociating themselves from the WTS."

  While attending a two-week elder's school some 43 years ago, the instructor told us that joining the military was not a DF offense, but "and act of disassociating themselves".

  I asked him what the difference was. He winked and smiled and said that there would be no difference as to the practice of required shunning. It was simply a legal statement to avoid U.S. from shutting down Watchtower on an act of sedition (Speech or conduct that incites people to rebel against a lawful authority). That to the rank and file JW, DF and DA will be considered identical.

  I asked him, wouldn't this be like putting out tails between our legs and compromising our integrity?

  He told us that announcing a DF, the onus of responsibility lays the act on Watchtower. With DA, the onus is placed on the offender.

  Therefore, in those years, Joining the military or accepting blood, the term disassociation would be used.